John Roche1

#6818, (circa June 1819 - )
RelationshipGranduncle of Estelle Rose Roche
Father*Michael Roche1 (s 1781 - )
Mother*Mary Whelan1 (s 1785 - )


Mary Glaven b. c 1825, d. 1890
Children 1.Michael Stephen Roche3 (c 1849 - 1911)
 2.John Roche Jr.19 (1851 - c 1852)
 3.Edward F Roche13 (c 1852 - )
 4.Margaret A. Roche+13 (1854 - 1928)
 5.Ellen E Roche+13 (c 1858 - 1937)
 6.Thomas Sylvester Roche+15 (1861 - 1924)
 7.Wilford I Roche+15 (c 1863 - 1919)
 8.Julia Agnes Roche+15 (c 1864 - 1937)
John Roche was also known as Roach (used Roach rather than Roche.)2 
Birth*circa June 1819He was born circa June 1819 at Co. Waterford, IrelandG.1,3,4 
Baptism25 June 1819He was baptized on 25 June 1819 at Cappoquin Parish, Co. Waterford, IrelandG.1
1825He was likely in the household of Michael Roche and Mary Whelan at Camphire, Lismore and Mocollop Par., Co. Waterford, IrelandG, in the census of of 1825.5  
10 April 1837He accompanied William Roche on 10 April 1837 to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.6
1840He appeared on the census of 1840 in the household of William Roche and Mary Ann Casey at St. Louis, Missouri, age 20-29; (possible.)7 
Baptism23 April 1840He sponsored the baptism of Patrick M Murphy on 23 April 1840 at St. Louis, Missouri.8 
Baptism14 October 1843He sponsored the baptism of William C F Roche on 14 October 1843 at Old Cathedral, St. Louis, Missouri; (godmother poss. Margaret Rice.)9 
Marriage*24 October 1843He married Mary Glaven, daughter of John Glaven and Margaret Kelleher, on 24 October 1843 at Missouri.10,11
19 September 1850He and Mary Glaven appeared on the census of 19 September 1850 at St. Louis, Missouri.12 
15 June 1860He and Mary Glaven appeared on the census of 15 June 1860 at Oquawka P.O., Twp. 11 N Range 4 W, Henderson Co., IllinoisG.13 
2 August 1870He and Mary Glaven appeared, (as Roach), on the census of 2 August 1870 at Albia P.O., Guilford, Monroe Co., IowaG.14 
19 June 1880He and Mary Glaven appeared on the census of 19 June 1880 at Franklin, Monroe Co., IowaG.15
17 June 1885He and Mary Glaven appeared on the census of 17 June 1885 at Iowa Prec., Holt Co., NebraskaG; (Hollinrake family named as Roche.)16 
9 June 1900He appeared on the census of 9 June 1900 in the household of Julia Agnes Roche and Richard Henry Murray at Iowa Twp., Holt Co., NebraskaG, father-in-law, age 90, b. Ireland Jun 1809 [sic], parents b. Ireland, marr., 55 yrs. [but Mary not reported, indexed as Rocher]; (neis. brother Thomas and Mary Roche, fam. 17.)17 
Burial*He was buried at O'Neill Cemetery, O'Neill, Holt Co., NebraskaG; (prob.)18 


  1. [S1472] Cappoquin Parish Baptism Register 1810-1870, Waterford and Lismore Diocese, Cappoquin, Co. Waterford, Ireland (National Library of Ireland, Dublin, Ireland), p. 70, img. 38/295. [Latin] Joanne??, of Michaelis Roache and Mariai Phelan, bapt. 25 Jun 1819, by E. Power; sponsors Joanne [pres. John] Phelan and Catherina Power; stipend 3s 6p, online
  2. [S520] VWH.
  3. [S20] 1850 U.S. Federal Census. John Roach (30), drayman, b. Ireland; Mary (25), b. Ireland; Michael S (9 mos.), b. MO; Julia Glavin (13), b. PA; Thomas Roach (25), drayman, b. Ireland.
  4. [S1253]  William Whelan Papers, correspondence and documents, McAllister Collection, Library Company of Philadelphia, 1314 Locust Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Collection summary, p. 4, Series I (1811–1841): "letters from William Roche, a dry goods merchant in Missouri. The first...describes Roche's trip from Philadelphia to St. Louis as well as the state of the markets there....The next was written to Roche's parents in County Waterford and explained where he had established himself 'after all my perambulation.' The letter is also signed by his siblings John, Bridget, and Ellen, who were living and working with him..."
  5. [S1680] Tithe Applotment Books, 1823-1837, image viewed online and, Box No. 121, Lismore and Mocollop Par., Cos. Waterford and Cork. imgs. 40 and 74 (amended)/129. Camphire Townlands. Michael Roche, 52 acres, value £1 per acre, annual tithing £3 6s. Note: record is certified 27 Nov 1825.
    Others in Camphire: Byrne, Callahan, Carty, Condon, Deale, Hearn, Hickey, Hogan, Keefe, Keily, Lamstand, Leary, Lyons, Mahony, Meligan, Mulcahy, Murphy, Noonan, Nugent, O'Daniel, Power, Stack, Usher.
  6. [S1686] Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Philadelphia, 1800-1882, Publication M425; 108 rolls, Record Group 36, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, District of Columbia, online, Roll 52/108, img. 71/651 (Family Search). Ship Oconee, from Liverpool arr. Philadelphia 10 Apr 1837. Manifest lines 9-13. Wm Roach, age 24, pedlar [sic]; John Roach, age 21, laborer; Ellen Roach, age 26, servant; Bridget Roach, age 18, servant; Thos. Malligan, age 17, farmer; all from Ireland. Lines 14-18 are the family of Patrick (40) and Mary (42) Walen, with children Jane (11), Barney (8) and Ellen (6).
  7. [S54] 1840 U.S. Federal Census. M (20-29) [Willliam], M (20-29) [John]; F (20-29) [Bridget], F (20-29).
  8. [S56] Gabriel Drouin, compiler, Drouin Collection: Early U.S. French Catholic Church Records (Montreal: Institut Généalogique Drouin, after 1940), St. Louis, Old Cathedral, Baptisms 1835–1844, p. 168, img. 97/249. Patrick Murphy, son of Geromion Murphy and Ellen Murphy; b. 10 Apr 1840, bapt. 23 [poss. 13] Apr 1840; sponsors John Roach and Mary Roach. [The use of her married name for Ellen suggests the same for Mary Roach. This, and the spelling of Roach, make it likely that the sponsors were John Roche and Mary Glaven, Roach being his usual spelling of his name.]. Online
  9. [S56] Gabriel Drouin, Drouin U.S. 1695-1954, Registre des Baptêmes De la Paroisse de St. Louis 1835-1844, p. 398 (img 215/249): "[margin] Wm Roche; [text] On the 14th of October 1843, I the undersigned baptized William C. Roche being three weeks old, son of William Roche & Mary Ann Casey. The Godfather was John Roche & Godmother Miss Margaret _____ [Rue? Rice?]."
  10. [S56] Gabriel Drouin, Drouin U.S. 1695-1954, St Louis Old Cathedral Marriages 1840-1849, p. 202; [margin] John Roche & Mary Gloven; [entry] On the 24th of October 1843, I the undersigned joined in the holy bonds of matrimony, John Roche, Son of Michael Roche and Mary Whelan, of the one part, and Mary Gloven, daughter of John Gloven and Margaret Kelleher, of the other part, in presence of [witnesses] James O Huffe [or Husse] and Margaret [illegible]; [signed] Geo. A. Hamilton.
  11. [S271] Missouri Marriage Records, 1805-2002, Microfilm images, online, 1843, img. 53/82, p. 61. John Roche and Mary Gloven, 24 Oct 1843, by Geo. A. Hamilton, Catholic priest; recorded 30 Dec 1843.
  12. [S20] 1850 U.S. Federal Census. John Roach (30), drayman; Mary Roach (25); both b. Ireland.
  13. [S19] 1860 U.S. Federal Census. John (40), farmer, b. Ireland; Mary (35), b. Ireland.
  14. [S18] 1870 U.S. Federal Census. John Roach (52), farmer, b. Ireland; Mary (42), keeping house, b. Ireland.
  15. [S17] 1880 U.S. Federal Census. John Roach (63), farmer, b. and parents b. Ireland; Mary (53), b. and parents b. Ireland.
  16. [S2472] 1885 Nebraska State Census. John (65), b. and parents b. Ireland, farmer, cannot read or write; Mary (56), b. and parents b. Ireland [with Hollinrake family enumerated as Roche].
  17. [S5] 1900 U.S. Federal Census. Richard H Murray (44), b. IA Feb 1856, parents b. Ireland, farmer; Agness (36), b. IA Jul 1864, parents b. Ireland, 9 children, all living; marr. 15 yrs.
  18. [S520] VWH.
  19. [S56] Gabriel Drouin, Drouin U.S. 1695-1954, St Louis Old Cathedral Burials 1847-1852, 1852:547, 5th entry: John Roache [sic] aged 13 m & 3 ds son of John Roache & Mary Glavin interred September 3 1852.